The Fluance and Project are two prominent brands in the world of vinyl players. When it comes to turntables, they both have the best-in-class models, such as Fluance rt85 vs Pro-ject debut carbon EVO, which offers excellent sound quality and has an aesthetic and durable design.
I have had a lot of questions from people around these two turntables who ultimately wanted to know which one is better. Hence, I decided to compare both of them.
As I don’t own these turntables, I asked two of my friends (Ron and Chris) to give me theirs so that I can compare them both and find out which one is best. I compared the two on different aspects like price, build quality, platter, tonearm, different colors available etc.
So, allow me to share the results with you guys!
Just in case you’re in a hurry, you can jump directly to the section that explains which one is the best choice for you.
Fluance RT85 | Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Evo | |
Price (USD) | 499 | 599 |
Cartridge Type | Ortofon 2m blue | Sumiko rainier |
Sound quality | Excellent | Excellent |
Records | Plays 7-inch and 12-inch | Plays 7-inch, 10-inch, 12-inch |
Speeds | 33 1/3 and 45 RPM | 33 1/3, 45 and 78 RPM |
Cueing Mechanism | Manual | Manual |
Pre-amp | None | None |
Adjustable Counterweight | Yes | Yes |
Plinth (base) | MDF Wood | MDF Wood |
Platter | 12-inch acrylic platter | 12-inch damped steel platter |
Weight (lbs) | 13.2 | 16.7 |
Colours | 4 options available | 9 options available |
Comparison between the two on different aspects
Build Quality
When it comes to the plinth (base), both turntables have a plinth made up of MDF wood that is very strong and sturdy. However, the Pro-ject weighs only 13.2 pounds and the Fluance is on the heavier side with 16.7 pounds. The main reason for Fluance being 3.5 pounds heavier is due to its acrylic platter.
But you may think lighter means better but not in the case of turntables. When turntables are heavier, they produce better sound since they reduce vibrations, preventing distortion. So Fluance RT85 has an edge this way.
Platter
If we talk about the platter, Fluance RT85 comes with a 12-inch acrylic platter, and Pro-ject debut Carbon Evo comes with a 12-inch damped steel platter. While a damped steel platter is still okay but it cannot compete with the sturdiness of an acrylic platter.
Speeds
Next comes the different speeds at which both the turntables can spin the record.
The Fluance RT85 can spin the records at two speeds, 33 1/3 and 45 RPM (Rotations per minute). At the same time, the pro-ject evo carbon can spin at three different speeds: 33 1/3, 45 RPM, and 78 RPM. And because of this, the Evo can play 12-inch albums, 7-inch singles, and even 10-inch old shellac records.
Price
If we compare the two turntables, the Carbon Evo costs $599, while the RT85 is priced at $499 making the Evo nearly $100 more expensive. They may seem a bit pricey but when you consider the quality both turntables offer, the price is justified.
Motors
Both the turntables work on a belt-driven mechanism. The belt-driven mechanism is where a motor is placed at the side where a rubber belt connects both the motor pully and the platter. As soon as the motor starts spinning, it spins the rubber belt, which ultimately spins the platter along.
Tonearm
A tonearm in a turntable is an essential component that holds the cartridge and ensures the stylus is able to track grooves properly. If we compare the tonearm on both the turntables, the Pro-ject has a better tonearm and cueing mechanism than a Fluance.
Color
Both the turntables have multiple color options to choose from.
While Fluance RT 85 comes with 4 color options.
- Piano black
- Piano white
- Walnut
- Bamboo
Pro-ject debut carbon EVO offers 9 different.
- High gloss black
- High gloss white
- High gloss red
- Satin fir green
- Stain steel blue
- Satin white
- Satin golden yellow
- Satin black
- Real Wood Walnut
Cartridge
A cartridge is a component that holds the stylus in place and converts the vibrations from the needle into small electrical signals that are later converted into sound.
In the case of these two turntables, the Fluance comes with an Ortofon 2m blue cartridge, and the Pro-ject comes with a Sumiko rainier cartridge. While I have mostly used Ortofon 2m blue on my turntables, and it sounds amazing. This time, when I played records with Sumiko Rainier, I concluded that both the cartridges are quite similar in performance.
However, there is one advantage that Fluance has over the project in the cartridge. The cartridge on fluance is quite easy to replace because of its universal headshell.
Fluance rt85 vs Pro-ject debut carbon evo: Sound quality
Due to their top-notch cartridges, the two turntables produce excellent sound, and the quality is almost at par. Thus, it isn’t easy to decide which one is better. However, because of the acrylic platter, which reduces the vibrations, Fluance has a slight advantage over the pro-ject.
Pre-amp
There are only two types of turntables that exist. One who has pre-amp built-in, and the other who doesn’t. But when it comes to both of these turntables, neither of them has a pre-amp built-in, which is quite surprising when the turntables come in this price range. But in response to this, both Fluance and Pro-ject give you the option to purchase separate external pre-amps for an additional 100 dollars.
Manual and automatic
The manual and automatic are two different types of turntables. In a manual turntable, you need to raise and lower the tonearm yourself using a cue lever, while the automatic one will raise and lower the tonearm itself.
When it comes to these two turntables, they both are manual, and it’s disappointing considering their price. But Fluance comes with an auto-stop function, at least. Auto-stop, in simple terms, means as soon as the stylus reaches the end of the record, the record will stop playing itself. It is a great feature as it protects your record from unnecessary spinning that can lead to wear and tear.
Counterweight
As the name suggests, the counterweight is the little adjustable weight at the back of the tonearm that prevents the stylus from exerting too much pressure on the record surface. This downward force is called the tracking force. However, with these two turntables, they don’t exert too much force that could harm your records. Additionally, they come with an adjustable counterweight to control tracking force.
USB feature
None of these two turntables have a USB feature to connect your PC or laptop. Hence, if you are planning to transfer your analog music to your computer, you won’t be able to do that.
But this won’t be a big problem if all you want to do is listen to your favorite record. So, no worries!
Easy to setup
Ease of setup is another thing that most of the first-time users consider before purchasing a turntable. While unboxing, aligning the rubber belt, etc., are relatively easy. The most difficult part of setting up a turntable is aligning the cartridge because if the needle doesn’t sit in the center of the grooves, it can ultimately lead to sound problems and scratched records.
But the good news is, these two turntables already come with an aligned cartridge right out of the box. I know it sounds like a relief!
Accessories
I know you are eager to know what you get along with these two turntables. I get it, I get it.
Well, both the turntables come with pretty much similar accessories: a power cord, a 45 RPM adapter to play 7-inch records, rubber belts, RCA cables, and dust covers. However, the pro-ject comes with a felt mat that fluance does not offer as an accessory, and fluance comes with a pair of white gloves that the pro-ject doesn’t give along.
Which one is best for you?
Both the turntables are the best in class and provide you with an amazing sound experience. There are minor differences that make one slightly better than the other, like a better tonearm and a better platter.
Final Words
The Fluance rt85 and Pro-ject debut carbon EVO offer good build quality, awesome sound experience and are the best in this price segment.
Just remember, no matter which one you choose. You don’t have to worry about the audio quality as both offer the best sound experience.
If you have any doubts about the two or need my suggestion, let me know in the comments. I am always here to help my fellow vinyl enthusiasts!
I was confused between the two. Thankgod I found your website.
I am glad the information in the blog post helped you make the right choice. š
I own a pro-ject carbon evo myself, though its a manual turntable but i assure you it really sounds amazing!
I totally agree with you, Bruno. The Sumiko Rainier cartridge does produce great sound out of vinyl records.
I upgraded my Pro-ject with a Sumiko Blue Point 3 MC low output cartridge (with recommended acrylic platter) and the sound separation, clarity and punch is amazing. It’s run through a Denon PMA 900 HNE integrated amp and out a pair of KEF R3 bookshelf speakers. Smoke a doob and mmmmmmmm.
Steve, sumiko blue point is one great cartridge. The sound produced is clear and bliss to the ear. Iād recommend keeping the tracking force around 2.0g to increase the longevity of the stylus. š